Is There A Way to Justify Dabra>Super Perfect Cell?

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Is There A Way to Justify Dabra>Super Perfect Cell?
Tweet Topic Started: Jun 13 2016, 11:33 PM (5,911 Views)
lazerbem	Jun 13 2016, 11:33 PM Post #1
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Is there any way for this to make sense? It's a semi-commonly held belief, so I was just wondering if there was any...pro SPC Dabra fans who could elucidate. Or Devil's advocates, that works too
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 13 2016, 11:40 PM Post #2
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	No, I don't think so. Even if we assume Gohan used SSJ2 against Dabura, Gohan's much weaker than he was before, and he had to use all of his power during the Cell Games to defeat Cell.
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EMIYA	Jun 13 2016, 11:54 PM Post #3
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	You'd have to make some wild idea where Gohan used the most bizarre form of SSJ2 which shares none of the characteristics of the SSj2 form and Dabura, being his genius self, decided to hold back against Gohan so they could have a roughly even fight, despite the fact that he was ordered to get energy for Boo and was even called out on it by Babidi himself.



+ Pyrus	Jun 14 2016, 12:03 AM Post #4
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	It's possible, I guess. Assume Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2 and Dabura was holding back against him?
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* Ketchup Revenge	Jun 14 2016, 12:45 AM Post #5
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	I don't think so. Goku put him in the range of Cell, but it's likely that he was putting him in the range of Perfect Cell and not SPC. Goku never saw SPC up close, so he really wouldn't have a real context of SPC's power in order to compare Dabra to.
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lazerbem	Jun 14 2016, 12:49 AM Post #6
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Not that I believe it, but what about Dabra's comment that he could totally take care of Gohan easily?
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+ Pyrus	Jun 14 2016, 01:23 AM Post #7
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	lazerbem Jun 14 2016, 12:49 AM Not that I believe it, but what about Dabra's comment that he could totally take care of Gohan easily? I always took that as Dabura's confidence in a second round after seeing Gohan's style already.
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KidBuu55	Jun 14 2016, 01:33 AM Post #8
Posts: 665 Group: Probation Member #13,002 Joined: March 24, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Pretty easy to do - Gohan as a SSJ2 was vastly stronger than Cell, Cell just managed to get the jump on Gohan. Gohan as a SSJ2 fighting Daubra is weaker, but Dabura is stronger, and Gohan is a little weaker. Gohan CG 5 Gohan Buu 4 Dabura 4 Cell 3 Not that difficult.



+ Son-Goku	Jun 14 2016, 01:33 AM Post #9
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Super Saiyan 2 Gohan and Dabura pretty darn close in power? If that's the case, which I'm pretty sure it is, then Super Perfect Cell should be much stronger than Dabura due to obvious reasons with Gohan's decrease in power over the years.
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Saberoph	Jun 14 2016, 01:34 AM Post #10
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	Not really, sure Dabra was confident for the second round, but in the first round he went for his sword and spit pretty quick, which tells me he couldn't take Gohan in a long drawn out fight. Also, since this Gohan was much weaker than his Cell Games self it seems more logical for Goku to be referring to the Cell he fought. Also since Gohan was only an SSJ when they fought, it's easy to figure out which Cell was being referenced. Edited by Saberoph, Jun 14 2016, 01:36 AM.
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KidBuu55	Jun 14 2016, 01:47 AM Post #11
Posts: 665 Group: Probation Member #13,002 Joined: March 24, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Saberoph Jun 14 2016, 01:34 AM Not really, sure Dabra was confident for the second round, but in the first round he went for his sword and spit pretty quick, which tells me he couldn't take Gohan in a long drawn out fight. Also, since this Gohan was much weaker than his Cell Games self it seems more logical for Goku to be referring to the Cell he fought. Also since Gohan was only an SSJ when they fought, it's easy to figure out which Cell was being referenced. If it was the Cell Goku fought, him and Vegeta wouldn't need to potentially team up to beat him. It was Super Perfect Cell the comparison was made to, and per the anime and Daizenshuu (and with respect to the coherence to the story) Gohan was an SSJ2.



Saberoph	Jun 14 2016, 01:56 AM Post #12
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	The Diaz isn't perfect and in the Manga Gohan was drawn as a SSJ not ASSJ. No sparks, no ASSJ aura and no ASSJ hair means he was SSJ, Also when Goku and Vegeta talk to Kaioshin about Dabra they both act like he's not much trouble when they reference Cell.
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KidBuu55	Jun 14 2016, 02:12 AM Post #13
Posts: 665 Group: Probation Member #13,002 Joined: March 24, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Saberoph Jun 14 2016, 01:56 AM The Diaz isn't perfect and in the Manga Gohan was drawn as a SSJ not ASSJ. No sparks, no ASSJ aura and no ASSJ hair means he was SSJ, Also when Goku and Vegeta talk to Kaioshin about Dabra they both act like he's not much trouble when they reference Cell. Not much trouble if they go at him together - a weaker Goku from 7 years ago and without access to SSJ2 was on par with that Cell. That's obviously not what they are talking about here.



Saberoph	Jun 14 2016, 02:15 AM Post #14
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	I'm saying since Gohan was not drawn as an ASSJ, and then you have Goku comparing Dabra to Cell, but this Gohan is weaker than his Cell Games self...it doesn't make sense for him to be referring to Super Perfect Cell.
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Slifer	Jun 14 2016, 02:17 AM Post #15
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	Nothing about Goku and Vegeta teaming up on Dabura was ever mentioned.



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